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KenCat1337 Illuminati Puppet
Number of posts : 154 Registration date : 2008-08-09
| Subject: Revolutions Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:47 am | |
| I find it rather interesting that only certain revolutions and/or certain history is taught, depending on who is currently in power. For example, you're never taught about the Turkish or Spaniard or even the failed, American anarchist revolution. I am, of course, talking about world history (or US History, if you're referring to the cultural revolution of the 1960's).
Only history and/or revolutions of THEIR view of freedom (electoral "democracy", what I consider an oxymoron because you're not truly representing yourself, where you elect one of two rulers to lead your country).
I can easily say most on this forum are of a "minority" (to the elites) philosophy. What do think about this and how can people's ideas and histories be properly portrayed? "Until the lions of historians of their own, tales of the hunt will always glorify the hunter." --African Proverb | |
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Pandemic Global Admin
Number of posts : 325 Age : 32 Location : Illinois Registration date : 2008-08-02
| Subject: Re: Revolutions Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:25 am | |
| Alot of History isn't displayed because it's against that government viewpoints. Communism won't show failed Communist governments. (Before you freak on me ill say Socialist Communist countries). That's just obvious, no government will show things opposing their own government, that will never be changed really | |
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KenCat1337 Illuminati Puppet
Number of posts : 154 Registration date : 2008-08-09
| Subject: Re: Revolutions Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:08 pm | |
| So in your opinion, it's fascism in "education". It's literally the exercise of strong autocratic control and the forcible suppression of opposition.
I don't see any other view being portrayed (consensus) or the history taught being decided among individuals democratically.
I think totalitarianism could explain what it is a bit more.. It is a political system, in this case implied in school, where a state regulates nearly every aspect of public and private life. In fact, that's exactly what you're doing by selecting the few, self-glorifying bits of history out of all of it, which should be portrayed.
I actually hate it more when people know about the truth, yet do not do anything at all about it than those who don't know the truth at all. "That will never be changed really". | |
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Pandemic Global Admin
Number of posts : 325 Age : 32 Location : Illinois Registration date : 2008-08-02
| Subject: Re: Revolutions Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:37 am | |
| It is, somewhat. 1. It displays many things against the government (Karl Marx) 2. It doesn't display some things.
I've learnt about National Socialism, Fascism, Communism, Napolean etc in one of my classes, and nearly each of those are something that would not be portrayed in a Fascist government because it is against it, just like their against the "oh-so evil capitalism." | |
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KenCat1337 Illuminati Puppet
Number of posts : 154 Registration date : 2008-08-09
| Subject: Re: Revolutions Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:10 am | |
| I never said that the governments they teach you about or necessarily fascist -- the government school system has a totalitarian system set up.
For example, "Animal Farm" (against Marxism) is taught, yet 1984 (for liberty) isn't. Each country teaches its children that their's and only their system is best. | |
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Pandemic Global Admin
Number of posts : 325 Age : 32 Location : Illinois Registration date : 2008-08-02
| Subject: Re: Revolutions Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:31 am | |
| Of course. I agree with you. But that's every government. In Anarchy im sure you wouldn't want your kids learning that if they captured this Anarchic society they could rule it like a dictator and own everything. That wouldn't turn out well. Sometimes it's for the safety of the state sometimes its because its against the state. Sometimes the state is just stupid. | |
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KenCat1337 Illuminati Puppet
Number of posts : 154 Registration date : 2008-08-09
| Subject: Re: Revolutions Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:46 am | |
| - Pandemic wrote:
- Of course. I agree with you. But that's every government. In Anarchy im sure you wouldn't want your kids learning that if they captured this Anarchic society they could rule it like a dictator and own everything. That wouldn't turn out well. Sometimes it's for the safety of the state sometimes its because its against the state. Sometimes the state is just stupid.
That sounds like the reason not to teach kids about sex so they don't do it.. That's just dumb, horrible things could result to this -- it protects nothing. I would love teaching people about the rise, and especially fall, of the anarchist time in Spain. We learn how to better things through history and past experiences. Statists, believe that it's safer if they don't know.. | |
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