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Who will be elected in Novembre
John Mc Cain (Republicain Party)
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Barack Obama (Democratic Party)
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Other (who ?)
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No one (lol)
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PostSubject: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:03 am

What do you think about this interesting question ?
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:06 am

Obama ofcourse -.-

I would prefer Clinton, but the republicans screwed up so hard the last 8 years, there all Democratic now >=]
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:08 am

John Mc cain, And 12 years whith a white house wich is red ! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:10 am

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white house wich is red ! Very Happy

Red?...like commie red? or what?
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:10 am

Red is the color of GOP ! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:11 am

Tommy wrote:
Red is the color of GOP ! lol!

Right Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:14 am

Red FTW. (With Sarah Palin, because you love her lol).
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:16 am

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Red FTW. (With Sarah Palin, because you you hate her and i don't love her either I HATE PALIN!).

Red sux, commie color LOL!

Anyways, the republicans NEVER WIN!!
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:20 am

You've changed my quote lol

The Republican Party is do FTW lol
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:39 am

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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:38 pm

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Pandemic

Whoz that? Il vote for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:34 am

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Whoz that? Il vote for him.

When you go to voter their will be a "Pandemic" box
Click it.
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:15 am

We are all equals and should be free -- no one! lol

Vote for Nobody


In reality, I think Obama is going to turn out the winner. =/
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:30 am

Voting for no one? Than one person votes and they win! Obama could elect himself!
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:49 am

No Mc Cain is awesome for the job of president , Go Mc Cain lol!

I have just seen the video on youtube of the results in 2004, wondeful ! I want the same thing this year.
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:49 am

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No Mc Cain is awesome for the job of president , Go Mc Cain lol!

I have just seen the video on youtube of the results in 2004, wondeful ! I want the same thing this year.

Tommy is back! Hip Hip, Horray!
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:52 am

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Tommy wrote:
No Mc Cain is awesome for the job of president , Go Mc Cain lol!

I have just seen the video on youtube of the results in 2004, wondeful ! I want the same thing this year.

Tommy is back! Hip Hip, Horray!

Thanks Thanks everybody lol!

No I'm sorry, but I didn't have time in this time (I've a lot of homework). Now I am sur, I am come back !!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:21 am

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No Mc Cain is awesome for the job of president , Go Mc Cain lol!

I have just seen the video on youtube of the results in 2004, wondeful ! I want the same thing this year.

Mc Cain is not bad, i just ain't a follower of his views, Sarah Palin i just dislike.
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:14 am

I suppose this is a REALISTIC question, because you did not include any third party candidates.

Therefore, you guys shouldn't be voting for who you want, but who you think will win.


Just to be different (pessimistic or realistic), I think McCain will win.
REASONS WHY:

1) Polls meant nothing in 2000 and 2004, this is the result of having a corporate media.
2) The people who aren't saying who they're voting for are the ones who are voting for McCain, like those who voted for Bush in 2004. The reason is usually guilt.
3) The above reason, though with the "justification" that Barack is black (which I've heard way too many times) -- they should be opposing him because of his policies.
4) [You may or may not count this as a reason, it'll happen whether or not the Bush Administration has enough guts to do it] With a Republican in power, the administration could rig the elections (more than they already are).

You get the point. Be realistic. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:17 am

"Therefore, you guys shouldn't be voting for who you want, but who you think will win."
Im hoping your being sarcastic?

And the polls are increasing, FOR McCain. So the polls are shit and don't prove either side. IF the people don't say who they vote for doesn't mean that much.
Electoral votes = Obamas side
I like Obamas policies. I dont give a shit about race, which alot of Republicans keep saying were doing and alot of Hilary fans are saying why she lost(Sexist)...im disguisted by these excuses.
They can't rig a election anymore. You know how many dems are in office and how many investigators are searching them for everything? (Mainly because idiotic 9/11 "truthers") People don't even believe hell do the bailout truthfully, and your saying he could rig the election, i don't think so.
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:42 pm

Pandemic wrote:
"Therefore, you guys shouldn't be voting for who you want, but who you think will win."
Im hoping your being sarcastic?

And the polls are increasing, FOR McCain. So the polls are shit and don't prove either side. IF the people don't say who they vote for doesn't mean that much.
Electoral votes = Obamas side
I like Obamas policies. I dont give a shit about race, which alot of Republicans keep saying were doing and alot of Hilary fans are saying why she lost(Sexist)...im disguisted by these excuses.
They can't rig a election anymore. You know how many dems are in office and how many investigators are searching them for everything? (Mainly because idiotic 9/11 "truthers") People don't even believe hell do the bailout truthfully, and your saying he could rig the election, i don't think so.

You have somewhat of a point on the rigging of the election part. However, I am positive Obama's policies doesn't truly represent your opinions, just the ones they talk about most.

Most democrats want equal gay rights, yet Obama doesn't believe in gay marriage.
Most democrats want us out of Iraq, yet Obama is leaving 80,000 troops in Iraq.
Most democrats didn't believe in the Fisa bill (which allowed the the government to spy on citizens), yet Obama voted for it.Most democrats wouldn't want the Israeli oppression/genocide against the Palestinians to exist if they knew about it.

I can go on.. Democracy is about representing yourself -- you can't do that while voting for a candidate who is against your common beliefs (this is assuming that you do not believe in genocide, the Iraq War, unequal gay oppression, etc).
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:56 pm

Against gay marriage, for gay-rights and adoption. Better than McCain.
Leaving those troops till they can be taken out, for defensive purposes of retailiation and so it looks like were actually helping them out alittle.
I agree with FISA law, it helps us find 1. Child Predators 2. Scandels (Such as Music sellers that sell which is not theirs) 3. possible threats/murder, hate crimes, etc. You recognize it as spying, i recognize it as helping.
Israel i agree with, though, because im not a christian/jew.
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:32 pm

"Against gay marriage, for gay-rights and adoption."
That doesn't make sense. That's like saying a black person cannot get married, but they can have black-rights or a "legal, civil union". See, now that I apply it to another, not SO foreign, type of person it becomes clear that the majority of this country is homophobic.

"Better than McCain."
This is probably one of the worst arguments I hear people (anyone) spout out of their asses and you should damn well know why.

"Leaving those troops till they can be taken out, for defensive purposes of retailiation and so it looks like were actually helping them out alittle."
Oh yeah, the way that our institution of war is called Department of Defense and the way we're "helping" them "restore democracy". It doesn't automatically become okay when the leader you like more does it. "Helping them out a little" is for the Peace Corps, not for armed soldiers taught and ordered to kill anyone with a gun not in their uniform.

"I agree with FISA law, it helps us find 1. Child Predators 2. Scandels (Such as Music sellers that sell which is not theirs) 3. possible threats/murder, hate crimes, etc."
1) This is exactly what George Orwell predicted.. People will WANT and BEG for such disastrous, oppressive things.
2) Instead of using your decision-maker's decision, how about you weigh out the pros and cons? One of the cons could be going to jail, simply for political dissent.
3) You are the only Obama-supporter I know who believes this. Wow, I thought you believed in a bit more liberty than that. ha

"Israel i agree with, though, because im not a christian/jew."
You don't have to belong to any religion (why think such a thing?!) to realize that Obama, and the rest of his conservative party and the ultra conservative republican party are openly funding and militarily arming and enforcing the illegally formed state of Israel over where the Palestinians used to live.

Wow, I am quite shocked. I thought you were simply someone who reflected their parents voting for the lesser of two evils. I didn't actually know you agreed with and attempted to justify the said evils. And the "evils" being what most DEMOCRATS dislike about Obama, not even anyone else's recognition of the millions dead due to capitalism, which is seen as an even bigger problem, worldwide.
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:20 pm

Obama is Pro Gays to achieve adoption. Not marriage.

Yes, Anarchists don't like "any evil" etcetc... i prefer to think which i agree with more, is the one i vote for, and i agree with Obama more than McCain, so i vote for Obama, very simple, really.

That's a odd argument. Considering we did help them in many ways as we fucked them, in many ways. And i never bashed McCain for his Iraq ideals, either. - Btw, usually if someone in Iraq has a gun not in a uniform and looking at American solidiers, their not going to be peaceful.

1. Good for George Orwell
2. Bullshit. Proof or no deal. I want proof that they will arrest me if im a communist on the internet. That's near as bad as a conspiracy theory, and you know how much i HATE them.
3. Too you, no, but than again, your a anarchist!

Most Christians agree with Israel because 1. Their government supports it thus they do and 2. They have ties with Judaism more than "Muslim Palestianians."
Judaism refers to it because it is supposeably their lang given by God. So i incorporate religion. Explain to me how Obama is a conservative. And Israel was given to the jews by United Nations because it was theirs originally, so don't say it was formed "illegally." But thats off-topic...

Yes, Yes, Yes, think of what you may, doesn't bother me very much.
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PostSubject: Re: Who will be elected in Novembre ?   Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:54 pm

Pandemic wrote:
Obama is Pro Gays to achieve adoption. Not marriage.

Yes, Anarchists don't like "any evil" etcetc... i prefer to think which i agree with more, is the one i vote for, and i agree with Obama more than McCain, so i vote for Obama, very simple, really.

That's a odd argument. Considering we did help them in many ways as we fucked them, in many ways. And i never bashed McCain for his Iraq ideals, either. - Btw, usually if someone in Iraq has a gun not in a uniform and looking at American solidiers, their not going to be peaceful.

1. Good for George Orwell
2. Bullshit. Proof or no deal. I want proof that they will arrest me if im a communist on the internet. That's near as bad as a conspiracy theory, and you know how much i HATE them.
3. Too you, no, but than again, your a anarchist!

Most Christians agree with Israel because 1. Their government supports it thus they do and 2. They have ties with Judaism more than "Muslim Palestianians."
Judaism refers to it because it is supposeably their lang given by God. So i incorporate religion. Explain to me how Obama is a conservative. And Israel was given to the jews by United Nations because it was theirs originally, so don't say it was formed "illegally." But thats off-topic...

Yes, Yes, Yes, think of what you may, doesn't bother me very much.


"Yes, Yes, Yes, think of what you may, doesn't bother me very much."
This IS a political forum, is it not? MY goal is never to bother anyone, that's counterproductive.


"i prefer to think which i agree with more, is the one i vote for"
So are you (not personally, as a voter)
[ ] that apathetic,
[ ] do you not care about the world that much or
[ ] is it not worth entirely thinking out?

You must vote for ONE of the THREE options. Go on, vote for the lesser of the "thee evils".

Of course it portrays too much of the registered voters, though I made that election to prove a point. A point that people's opinions on (very important things) cannot be fit into either one person or one ballot box, no matter (or especially because) how "simple, really" it is.

To tell you the truth, were I to vote (and I probably will) for anyone I would vote for either Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader. THEY are the TRUE lesser of evils, while still portraying the evil so many talk about. That's why I am opposed to this forced electoral "democracy" -- it's not a democracy at all! How could someone who opposes the system do such a thing? It gets ideas out.



"usually if someone in Iraq has a gun not in a uniform and looking at American solidiers, their not going to be peaceful."

1) Note that you said usually.
2) The way the soldiers are now trained is if gunfire comes from a crowd, you shoot the entire crowd.
3) Would you not also not act passively, if some foreign, "self righteous" country came and openly invaded your country, pillaging and killing for the sake of democracy or to remove a dictator that was put in place by them or to check if there were WMDs, etc!?




"Proof or no deal. I want proof that they will arrest me if im a communist on the internet. That's near as bad as a conspiracy theory, and you know how much i HATE them."I am with you on the conspiracy theory statement..
I hope it only was a conspiracy theory, yet it happened to Sherman Austin, a young black anarchist.



"Too you, no, but than again, your a anarchist!"
So anarchists don't know Obama supporters? What a truly idiotic statement. lol




"Their government supports it thus they do and they have ties with Judaism more than "Muslim Palestianians."You committed a logical fallacy: generalization. Not all Christians blindly obey government and not all of them favor any side they have "ties" with (!?!!).
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