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PostSubject: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:57 am

Can Bonapartism Work?
Debate By CoolKidX(Liberal Leader) and Sill(Authorian-Right Leader)

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Sill has the floor. First post must contain the following:
What is Bonapartism?(Sill)
What are it's founding traditions?(Sill)

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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:17 am

Bonapartism: Is a political ideaology associated with the France Monarchy under Napolean.

Traditions: Nationalism, Militarianism, Anti-Communist, Total Free Speech, Free Market with some restrictions.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:45 pm

Okay let's hit this!

First off, nationalism: Its obviusly that you love your country, but why dont give others a change? Its jsut playing stupid, evryone is human and should have the same changes.

Militarnism:Thats jsut dumb, it leads to impralism and how far you go, you will fall like Napleon did in Russia, theres nothing good about it and the ppl will realize that there F'd hard in the A by there dumb army, there gov who had to have other countries.

Anti-Communis:That will work, i mean i agree with this one.

Total Free Speech:Keep it! Free speech FTW!

Free Market:Yea i agree, not much about this one.

And bonpartyism just wont work, why?

1.It will fall by other countries.

2.The ecnomy will fall after the gov is bissy with the army.

3.Impralism sucks and wotn work!
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:16 am

1/ Nationalism is giving pride to ones nation and to want to keep your brothers togther. We don't need to intertwin, just causes racial and ethnical problems.

2/ Militarianism is so we don't get attacked, and if in threat we can fight back instead of get destroyed, under Napolean he really didn't stand a chance because he couldn't militarianize France quickly enough!

3/ I don't understand "Fall by other countries"

4/ It's not centered around Military, and it's free market too, so the economy will circulate, look at US in history, how much it spends on defense and the little on economy. ~ It's in a bad stage now but it's worked in the past.

5/ Militarianism is not always imperalism.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:48 am

1/Keep your borthers together? Sounds like the country is "inavded"by the evil imgrants, it sounds racist evryone is human!

2/You wouldnt need a army if you are a reasonable country who has good bonds with the other countries. In fact, other countries seing you haveing a huge army will amek them unsure about your bonds together.

3/The country would be destoryed by other countires thats what i meant.

4/is thiz certain country USA? It could be France now it could be a african country to.

5/It leads to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:00 am

1/ Everyone is human, but everyone is still different in race. Wanting to keep your race togther in one country is not racist, and as a matter of fact, immigrants are bad, illegal ones, that is.

2/false. think about S.korea, if they didn't have decent military N.Korea would destroy them in a heart beat. Same with what happened to georgia against russia, and all these small places torn apart by stronger places. diplomacy doesn't always work.

3/not if they had strong military as i stated above

4/ and all of them usually have decent military standards and decent living conditions, unless capitalist countries are corrupted, which creates problems for living conditions.

5/napolean under france was not imperalist so you have no proof/backup evidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:57 am

1/No were all the same race:Human, its jsut dumb that you dont give the same chnages for legal imgrants.

2/It rlly depends on the place of the country, so we cant rlly argue about that, if it was S-Korea its diffrent when its Belgium or something.

3/not rlly much to say -.-

4/And what if its an african country? It just cant work when you begin with a poor country, you need to start with a wealthy country, lets say France, and then you'll bring france down.

5/Rlly? REALLY!? Napelon wasnt imprealistic? you gotta be rofling me(srry for the l33t), so France DNT invaded Russia for nothing? They DNT invaded other countries...srsly man.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:55 am

1/ Point taken, but we are all different, skull investigations has proven that skulls even have different shapes and sizes threw different races.

2|3/ SOLVED

4/ Explain. that was bias statement

5/ When your almost positive of being attacked, you have to either 1. Build defense alot (Which he couldn't do in the amount of time) or 2. Fight back first. (Which is what he did) Defensive measures is not imperalist! Not to mention the other countries he invaded to halt Britains movements/measures.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:19 am

1/Leads to racism

2/3 yup solved

4/nvm that sh!t

u know what lets stop doing the / thingies
i just get to the conslusion.


Ok, Bonpartyism CAN work, BUT its not even nesary, beacuse countires in this centry are reasonable and dont attack very fast, theres no reason why a country needs bonapartism.

And still if it was in 1 country...it would prbly fail ahrd both ecnomic and in the country, because you need a big wealthy country to begin with.

So lets end this shizzle...
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:10 am

Well, CoolKidX admitted Bonapartism can work, and that was the main debate. Do we precieve on, or not?
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PostSubject: Re: Can Bonapartism Work? CoolkidX vs Sill ~ Solved   Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:11 am

Yes. Mission accomplished. The winner is decided upon the person, so i can not choose a winner for this nessecarily.

Thank you for the debate.
~ Closed.
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